Not Hillary?

Based on this quote by Obama earlier (via Mark Assperin):

Says he's chosen someone "to challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

And from USA today:

In an interview in Chester, Va., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said he's made up his mind, but he would not say whether he's informed that person yet. "I won't comment on anything else until I introduce our running mate to the world," he said. "That's all you're going to get out of me."

Obama said it was a difficult decision. "We had some great choices."

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."

He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

Who would you guess it is? As a hard-core Obamist since 2006, I sense he's trying to warn me (not that I wouldn't proudly sport the bumper sticker). Sorry about the short diary, but Obama's words speak for themselves.



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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

He also suggested that the person should someone of low profile, which seems to point more towards Evan Bayh.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:09:39 PM EST

Damn, (none / 0)

I missed that part. I guess I'm reading what I want to read. My cellphone will get tossed if the text message doesn't read "Al Gore," "Senator Clinton," or "Gen. Clark." Seriously. I'm sure she could keep a semi-low profile...


by Bob Sackamento on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:16:02 PM EST
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Re: Damn, (2.00 / 1)

Low profile?

Seen a picture of them together? He's about a foot taller then she is....

Bob, you and I both know it won't be Al, but I sure do agree about the General....


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:20:30 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

When did he say this?  Was it before today?


by mashews on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:34:18 PM EST
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Today n/t (none / 0)


by Bob Sackamento on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:42:44 PM EST
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Low ego (none / 0)

I don't know why he'd say this, since he'll be insulting others he was considering. . . and EVERYBODY has an outsized ego in politics.

But it does seem to rule out Hillary--since she's a huuuuuge celebrity.


by maconblue on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:12:18 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 3)

The outrage on around here is going to be amazing when the pick is finally announced. No matter who he picks :)


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:21:43 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 2)

Predicting a 30 diary pile-up to get on the rec list if it's NOT Senator Clinton.

I think Jerome should give out numbers, based on how many times folks  have posted"

"If he doesn't pick Hillary, I'm......."

Kind of a outrage priority system.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:39:08 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

and a 1300 diary pile-up with markos making more threats to not donate to BHO on dkos if it IS LOL


by zerosumgame on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46:28 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

I think the outrage will be muted if it's Hillary. Just my opinion.


by Dog Chains on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36:36 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 3)

good find, it reinforces my belief that his message of unity and compromise, listening to the bottom, (and wanting someone who will work, with him, and who will be his sounding board, and not his yes man is great news), is predictable. What is change if it isn't putting together a great team to do a very hard job.  

HIghly recommended short diary!!!


what a relief
by anna shane on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:32:25 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 4)

He rolls her out in Springfield on Saturday invoking Lincoln's Team of Rivals.


by NMMatt on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:49:29 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

Good thought process. Probably wrong, but I like how you think.


A PROUD Hopium user!
by xodus1914 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:27:58 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

So when is he going to announce already????


by Dari on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:15:30 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 3)

Here's a thought. If it's NOT Hillary, wouldn't it have been smart for the campaign to leak the fact that it isn't her ahead of time, to deflate expectations?


by animated on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:42:18 PM EST

Yep (none / 0)

and they are intentionally cutting the media cycle.  An announcement on a Friday or a Saturday before the convention?  They only want the boom, not any of the fuss- its either going to be a huge announcement or one of the most inconsequential of any POTUS election cycles to date.


by linc on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:08:26 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

I agree 100% here.  IMO they should have announced that it wasn't Hillary (if indeed it is not) long ago.

HRC fans need to "get over it", right?  So why string along expectations?  The more time HRC knows that she is out of the picture, the better chance for Obama to pick up their vote.

Unless, of course...that she's the VP choice.

The Obama campaign is stringing the expectations game along so long that it's almost a disappointment if it is Biden, etc....because that's the expectation.

At this point it's only interesting if it is HRC, Al Gore, or someone that's completely out of the box.

- Matt


by mjc888 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:16:36 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

I don't know if that's an ironclad argument.  If I were to play devil's advocate, I could imagine people being up in arms because she was rejected before other "lesser qualified" candidates.  I'm not saying it would be a bad strategy if they chose someone else, but it may pose its own unique problems.


by rfahey22 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:46:11 PM EST
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hey bob? (none / 0)

i may be a bit dim - but who are you saying that you think it is?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:45:41 PM EST

Hillary. n/t (none / 0)


by Bob Sackamento on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:50:22 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

I wouldn't read much into it.  He's certainly not going to say he wants someone who agrees with him all the time.


by Skaje on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:26:32 PM EST

All I want to know is... (2.00 / 3)

IS THIS CLARK???

Serious question. ;-)


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:36:32 PM EST

Re: All I want to know is... (none / 0)

These comments are quite vague...they could apply to any of the candidates.

However, the economy/"working class" mention raises eyebrows on certain candidates...some are stronger in this area.


by mjc888 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:11:04 PM EST
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Meh. (none / 0)

I was just seizing the opportunity to make a MyDD in-joke.  I really don't much care who the veep is--although if it were up to me, I would pick Clark.


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:22:25 PM EST
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by maconblue on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:14:09 PM EST

Brilliant criteria for picking a VP (none / 0)

It will be a very good time for Obama supporters to attack his VP pick, at the start of the convention and all. It will also be very helpful to electing McCain President if we have an enormous burst of hyperbolic outrage in print attacking his VP choice. Beforehand discussion can sometimes be rough play, afterwards it's just like campaigining for McCain. No one really wants four more years of this economy, do they? Just a BandAid will cost a week's worth of food.


by Jeter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:14:48 PM EST

Sounds to me like HRC (none / 0)

Which would be a game-changing, election-winning move.  I hope he was smart enough and brave enough to make it.  If he has I think we'll see a Democratic administration in just five months.


by Thaddeus on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:18:23 PM EST

Candy Crowley is on Anderson Cooper (2.00 / 1)

She opened her story wondering if Obama's talking about Hillary in the aforementioned remarks. I realize Crowley is a stooge, but I'm just saying...


by Bob Sackamento on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:04:12 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

CNN is all about Hillary the past four hours, based on Obama's quote today.


by mjc888 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:13:22 PM EST

HRC has an event scheduled (none / 0)

on Sunday; she is scheduled to give a speech before a labor/Hispanic group on Sunday in Fresno, CA.  She's in New York tomorrow but free on Saturday.

Did Obama really not think that the media would not take his statement about "someone who will challenge him" to mean HRC?


by Blazers Edge on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:19:27 PM EST

Re: HRC has an event scheduled (none / 0)

Other than Biden (who generally seems to speak his mind), you're right.  

Of course this could be applied to all the candidates...but HRC will come to mind first.

...and the working class quote?  Again, HRC.

Suddenly the CNN pundits are back on the HRC train.  They're back to "well, the odds are stacked...but she's the most qualified...and he's lagging in the polls...and he needs an attack dog...and..."

How quickly Biden is wiped off of their headlines.  This shows was a game changer Clinton could be, and perhaps how blah the other candidates might be perceived.


by mjc888 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:34:00 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

Don't think it's Hillary. the comment about not ego and not wanting to get the name in the papers is a hint, I think.

the trouble is I don't see how any of the final three proclaimed by others will meet the ready to be president test. they seem a dim group to me.


by Christy1947 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:35:06 PM EST

Re: Not Hillary? (none / 0)

Where is this quote?  


by mjc888 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36:39 PM EST
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Re: Not Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

ego?

This is the same Senator who, although a celebrity freshman senator, took a back seat to senior senators, played by the rules, and quietly went about learning how to get along in the Senate.

I swear, some people project Bill's personality onto her


by alamedadem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:45:00 AM EST
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